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This editorial cartoon, pretty well sums up society’s “woman good/man bad” norm on reproductive issues. I expounded on this at greater length in my co-authored column Respect a Man’s Choice, Too (8/1/06) for the left-wing website AlterNet. I wrote:
“….5 million American women legally walk away from motherhood every year through adoption, abortion or abandonment. In over 40 states mothers can completely opt out of motherhood by returning unwanted babies to the hospital shortly after birth. If men like [Choice for Men lawsuit plaintiff Matt] Dubay are deadbeats and deserters, what are these women?
“Whenever a child is born outside of the context of a loving, two-parent family, there are no good solutions. [Feminist critic Kai] Ma overstates her case, but she is correct that ‘Choice for Men’ is a flawed solution. However, the current regime, which provides women with a variety of choices and men with none, is also flawed.
“Dubay’s conduct is not particularly admirable, and he’s certainly not a candidate for father of the year; however, he does have a point. Over the past four decades women’s advocates have successfully made the case that it is wrong to force a pregnancy on an unwilling mother. Despite the backlash against Dubay, hopefully his lawsuit will result in a greater societal awareness that it is also wrong to force a pregnancy on an unwilling father.”
Source: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/29/societys-woman-goodman-bad-norm-on-reproductive-issues/
I posted about this cartoon a while ago, making very similar points. Worth reading again.
I disagree on this one.
Yes, by aborting a baby, a woman is indeed avoiding the responsibilities required of motherhood. However, they are doing so by stopping their biological motherhood from actually happening, killing the fetus before it becomes a human with emotional needs.
When a person, male or female, abandons their living child, they are neglecting the needs of an actual child, the existence of whom they were partly responsible for creating, even if it was an accident. Under most circumstances, this is a selfish thing to do: you made a decision to have unprotected sex with a person and then chose not to deal with the consequences, leaving a child to grow up without a parent, leaving its mother or father without financial or emotional support (in a typical situation, I suppose.)
Yay for n-ausea, with the rational response! (You don’t see those much around here…) Anyway, I think you raise a good point, so I’m reblogging this again. In this situation, due to the woman being the one carrying the baby, she essentially has all the power. (Not to say that’s something that should be fixed, it’s just unavoidable due to how our species works.) I suppose, though, where this image makes it’s point is of course before the fetus develops into a child. There’s really no way for a situation like that to turn out perfectly, but I’d say the woman has a bit of an advantage because it’s her body.
But yeah, I remain in agreement that abandonment by either person after the child has been born is irresponsible, and causes the child to grow up without someone who could’ve been an important role model and guide for them.](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpsx9gT9r81qmfixgo1_400.gif)
This editorial cartoon, pretty well sums up society’s “woman good/man bad” norm on reproductive issues. I expounded on this at greater length in my co-authored column Respect a Man’s Choice, Too (8/1/06) for the left-wing website AlterNet. I wrote:
“….5 million American women legally walk away from motherhood every year through adoption, abortion or abandonment. In over 40 states mothers can completely opt out of motherhood by returning unwanted babies to the hospital shortly after birth. If men like [Choice for Men lawsuit plaintiff Matt] Dubay are deadbeats and deserters, what are these women?
“Whenever a child is born outside of the context of a loving, two-parent family, there are no good solutions. [Feminist critic Kai] Ma overstates her case, but she is correct that ‘Choice for Men’ is a flawed solution. However, the current regime, which provides women with a variety of choices and men with none, is also flawed.
“Dubay’s conduct is not particularly admirable, and he’s certainly not a candidate for father of the year; however, he does have a point. Over the past four decades women’s advocates have successfully made the case that it is wrong to force a pregnancy on an unwilling mother. Despite the backlash against Dubay, hopefully his lawsuit will result in a greater societal awareness that it is also wrong to force a pregnancy on an unwilling father.”
Source: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/29/societys-woman-goodman-bad-norm-on-reproductive-issues/
I posted about this cartoon a while ago, making very similar points. Worth reading again.
I disagree on this one.
Yes, by aborting a baby, a woman is indeed avoiding the responsibilities required of motherhood. However, they are doing so by stopping their biological motherhood from actually happening, killing the fetus before it becomes a human with emotional needs.
When a person, male or female, abandons their living child, they are neglecting the needs of an actual child, the existence of whom they were partly responsible for creating, even if it was an accident. Under most circumstances, this is a selfish thing to do: you made a decision to have unprotected sex with a person and then chose not to deal with the consequences, leaving a child to grow up without a parent, leaving its mother or father without financial or emotional support (in a typical situation, I suppose.)
Yay for n-ausea, with the rational response! (You don’t see those much around here…) Anyway, I think you raise a good point, so I’m reblogging this again. In this situation, due to the woman being the one carrying the baby, she essentially has all the power. (Not to say that’s something that should be fixed, it’s just unavoidable due to how our species works.) I suppose, though, where this image makes it’s point is of course before the fetus develops into a child. There’s really no way for a situation like that to turn out perfectly, but I’d say the woman has a bit of an advantage because it’s her body.
But yeah, I remain in agreement that abandonment by either person after the child has been born is irresponsible, and causes the child to grow up without someone who could’ve been an important role model and guide for them.
This editorial cartoon, pretty well sums up society’s “woman good/man bad” norm on reproductive issues. I expounded on this at greater length in my co-authored column Respect a Man’s Choice, Too (8/1/06) for the left-wing website AlterNet. I wrote:
“….5 million American women legally walk away from motherhood every year through adoption, abortion or abandonment. In over 40 states mothers can completely opt out of motherhood by returning unwanted babies to the hospital shortly after birth. If men like [Choice for Men lawsuit plaintiff Matt] Dubay are deadbeats and deserters, what are these women?
“Whenever a child is born outside of the context of a loving, two-parent family, there are no good solutions. [Feminist critic Kai] Ma overstates her case, but she is correct that ‘Choice for Men’ is a flawed solution. However, the current regime, which provides women with a variety of choices and men with none, is also flawed.
“Dubay’s conduct is not particularly admirable, and he’s certainly not a candidate for father of the year; however, he does have a point. Over the past four decades women’s advocates have successfully made the case that it is wrong to force a pregnancy on an unwilling mother. Despite the backlash against Dubay, hopefully his lawsuit will result in a greater societal awareness that it is also wrong to force a pregnancy on an unwilling father.”
Source: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/29/societys-woman-goodman-bad-norm-on-reproductive-issues/
I posted about this cartoon a while ago, making very similar points. Worth reading again.
